ago. ". . If your team already has 5 or 6 battling Pokemon, I recommend replacing your Swellow with an HM slave so that your other Pokemon can gain more experience. My favorite HM slave has always been tropius. I don't know what to teach him for his 4th HM move. Apr 29, 2013 #1 Until HM moves are made unnecessary for going through the games their will always be pokemon who will only be caught for the sake of muling the. Dragonite can learn all HM's except flash. Sharpedo, as an HM Slave, could learn all the water HMs along with Strength and Rock Smash. Tropius + Bibarel. MegaButterfree 7 years ago. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. Seriously, I have it in my last try and it's level 95 now with EQ, Flamethrower, Fly and Doubleedge and it rocks. I saw a similar set up for gen 4 between tropius and wailmer. Most notably the ones people use the most. She's currently level 49 cause when my current team gets whooped by some lucky high-level wild one, she steps in and saves the day with one powerful Surf. What a nobody says on GameFaqs is irrelevant. Tropius Fly Cut Strenght Flash. best hm slaves? Pokemon Ruby Version Game Boy Advance. Wurmple at level 10, then at level 11, it evolved to Porygon, that's better. 611 votes, 26 comments. Dwell in peace in the home of your own being, and the messenger of Death will not be able to touch you. Can you guys tell me which pokèmon is a good HM slave for early/middle/end story mode? ty in advance. zeroality15 years ago#2. Tropius, hands-down. Sharpedo is the fastest surfer though. So let's hear about your HM slaves. He's not for competitive battle, but females. Usually the. For Pokemon X on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius: Potential Lost. tropius is also a good hm slave. hyahyahyahya • 4 mo. soul. Bibarel - Cut, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb Tropius - Fly, Strength, Defog, Rock Smash But it looks like with a different HM05, I'll have to change their movesets slightly: Bibarel - Surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall, Rock Climb Tropius - Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock SmashDragonite. :) My Emerald slaves were Zigzagoon and Spheal (with Flygon covering Fly) talli_ho on March 10th, 2010 09:22 pm (UTC) I'm a noob that doesn't have an HM slave. 4. Wax Larry King: Llamas are nature's greatest warriors. Bibaral is the GOAT HM slave. Yeah, it's not very useful in battle with those moves, but as long as you have Pickup it's a constant source of items that you can, at the very least, sell. - Swanna can also learn Surf and Dive, making it a great HM slave. It has Fly, Strength, and Cut. Top. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. I plan to buy the Ocarinas for the other HMs (Flash, Waterfall, Dive, etc) so only one of my pokemon slot is reserved to the Tropius slave. Amon_Ishtar 15 years ago #3 Gyarados as an HM slave on. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. #10. Linoone, the best hm slave. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. Crawdaunt learns all of them but the most popular HM slaves are Tropius and Golduck, who together get all 8 HMs between them. Tropius (Fly, Strength, Rock Smash) (Defog for Sinnoh) 2. I don't remember which games the Skarmory and Tropius are best for because I think it was game specific due to HM changes, but they work great. Strangely enough, there’s one other Pokemon in the series that learns Cut without needing an HM, largely because this Pokemon debuted after the developers removed HMs from the series. Jan 2, 2015. Pancham is pretty good early on, Strength, Cut, Rock Smash and Surf. 3DS FC: 5155 2932 6518. Lugia (I have a few, I use one that has Surf and Fly), Onix (has the odd TM too I think), Linoone (with pickup). Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. Empoleon: Surf, Rock Climb, Rock Smash, Cut. Go. I'll always swap it in for my strongest Pokemon whenever I need it and it came clutch for me in Victory Road. 1. If you're looking for the Sword & Shield or Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl, Check out Tropius Pokémon Sword & Shield data. 4. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. In addition, Tropius has been switched into the party in exchange for Shinx as Tropius is now the main HM Slave. . . KokyuDosa14 years ago#6. 5. Magmar, while outclassed as an HM Slave, can use its decent speed, offensive stats and movepool to reliably and quickly sweep the Elite 4, which is the fastest way of generating money in all Gen 3 games. Chlorophyll plus solar beam, is a pure hax. Do not be afraid to teach your team members hms (there isn't much movepool diversity in the earlier gens anyway). Strangely enough, there’s one other Pokemon in the series that learns Cut without needing an HM, largely because this Pokemon debuted after the developers removed HMs from the series. " Amanda Palmer FC #1: 0516-7414-5138 FC#2:3282-3568-7022. Erk2225 8 years ago #7. Let's be real, Zigg is hands down the best HM slave. Legendary_Musas 8 years ago #5. I think mew can learn them all but it's better to use a bibarel and something else that can use defog. Do you guys usually keep your HM slaves with you and only fight with 4 good pokemon and then use the other 2 just for HMs? Mario Maker 2: SteveKoopa: ID 6K7-PR2-TWG Smash Ultimate Mains: Samus, Lucas, Jokerwhat's a good HM slave for this game? I prefer one the know cut, strength, fly, and Rock Smash/ Flash. Ludicolo - Leech Seed, Surf, Sub/Protect/Rain Dance, Ice Beam Vileplume - Sludge Bomb, Leech Seed, Razor Leaf/Giga Drain, Sleep Powder Breloom: Leech Seed, Sky Uppercut, Spore, filler Of course, any set is decent ingame, but that's what I recommend. You can do better than that. 1 Kartana. Cut. KillerFugu • 4 yr. BANANYAN is a randomized Pokémon that debuted in Patterrz's 2 Hour Pokémon Emerald challenge livestream, which streamed live on July 2nd 2021. This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. As for HM slaves, Bibarel and Tropius can learn all 8 combined (Tropius - Fly, Defog, Cut, Rock Climb / Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Strength, Rock Smash). Everything else on this list could theoretically be doing something better with their time. Tropius together with any of a large number of water Pokemon. Anyway I am playing PkM Silver right now, so I thought what Pokemon wold be best for HM slave for gen2 PkM games, or gen3, gen1 ;153;Who, in your opinion, is the best hm slave? I'm using the Shiny gyarados (Rock Smash, Strength, Surf, and Whirlpool) Pokemon Black FC: 2666 1617 9618. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. linoone - strength, cut, rock smash tropius - fly, secret power wailord - dive, surf, waterfall MarioGalaxyR0X 9 years ago #7 Tropius/Golduck is actually an excellent combo: Tropius Fly Cut Strength Rock Smash Golduck Surf Waterfall Dive FlashTropius!!!! My favorite HM slave in-game. 310 votes, 40 comments. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. Egg Moves. Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. For example, I am training a horror team. There are 8 HMs so i'm guessing i would need one with wings to fly and another sorry little. Tropius needs fly and defog while Bibarel needs waterfall and surf. 4 Greninja. Tropius LOOKS really good, but sadly, it isn't. Lol, I used swampert for strength, waterfall, and surf. This is a topic dumping on Tropius, but honestly, I think this topic is failing to appreciate what a true failure of a Pokemon Tropius is. I. Also Arecus,Darkrai, Deoxys, Dialga, Entei, Mew, and Raikou. linoone - strength, cut, rock smash tropius - fly, secret power wailord - dive, surf, waterfall MarioGalaxyR0X 9 years ago #7 Tropius/Golduck is actually an excellent combo: Tropius Fly Cut Strength Rock Smash Golduck Surf Waterfall Dive Flash TROPIUS AND CHANDELURE!!!!! Yes! I am so damn pumped! Goodra is also a great choice! I am meh on Intelion. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. Upon starting the game, Patterrz had these three randomized starters: Manetric, Cubone &. The only Hoenn Pokemon who might make a better HM mule than Ludicolo is Crawdaunt. Strength. This is my favourite HM Slave because it works great in conjunction with almost any water Pokemon. Tropius can learn Fly, Strenght and Cut, and can hit decent with Fly and can learn Leaf Storm. You can get a Bidoof very early in-game, and Bibarel pop up not long after. #13. I decided to go with Pancham as my HM slave for now. There isn't a single mandatory cut tree though IIRC so strength would be better on a "I want to never get stuck and need to backtrack". Having those 2 pokemon is enough to navigate through the game. 1 Kartana. Try being informed instead of just opinionated. i recommed bibarel, ferret or linoone for cut, surf, strength, rock smash & whirlpool (HGSS) where bibarel is the most usefull HM slave because he can also learn waterfall and rock climb. Use Flash to light up dark caves and use Dig to easily escape caves without using an escape rope! Hope I. Tropius and Bibarel. All I can think of is bibarel for gen. . of course i don't. Darth_Mom 15 years ago #2. Especially Strength, because once you push in a boulder, it stays in. Now I have to find a way to cover every type in 4 Pokemon. ago. I generally am not a fan of the move fly so I like having someone else to do that. 2 Gallade. The name Tropius should be Borelius or Borealius for the variant. Curiously, I tend to think of Tropius as an HM-user before any of these. 12. 3DS FC: 4897-6094-2924 IGN: Nick. DangerMouse54 13 years ago #3. Hope this. Thanks, I actually didn't even realize!!! If I can ask another question, what are your thoughts on this lineup: Swampert, Gardevoir, Aggron, Salamence, Breloom (not sure about this one), and Tropius as an HM slave? I'm not really sure about Breloom tbh, and I'm also considering adding Flygon just for fun. FLY on Honkrow. The egg cycles of these pokemon are 25 (6,169–6,425 steps). For my playthrouugh of Alpha sapphire, my heart goes out to Bubblez the azumarill, for surfing, diving waterfalling and digging, and Bananasoar the Tropius, for flying, cutting, being moderately strong and rock smashing. I taught it Strength, Fly, Cut, and Flash. Both have interesting designs, in my opinion. Tropius can learn Rock Smash, Cut, Fly, Defog and Strength. If your game has multiple water HMs, then use lapras. . LordTrashSider. Waterfall, Dive and Cut, then Tropius with Flash, Strength, Fly and Rock Smash. After all, you need someone to use all of those hidden machines. Reaction score. discdeath • 13 yr. Fruitius is an interesting thing to say the least. good hm slave. You will need to breed a female Tropius with a compatible male Pokémon, with the male (for Gen 2-5) knowing the egg move in question. Tropius, Bibarel, Gyarados: Excellent HM slaves Gallade @ Wide lens - Hypnosis, Swords Dance/Taunt, False Swipe, Mean Look: IMO best catcher Pokémon around Smeargle w/ Technician @ Silk Scarf - Belly Drum, Spore, False Swipe, Mean Look/Taunt/Cosmic Power: Another good catcher (though not as good as Gallade)0. Teach him Sunny Day and Solar Beam. Between Tropius and a water-type, you can get all 8 HMs. mewruler 15 years ago #3 *cough*bibarel and peliper*cough*. . Anyways, I think there COULD be a lot less HM's. The point in HM slaves are to get as many HM's onto 2 pokemon as possible. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. Otherwise, nope. Plus it get's the ability Pick-up. I like Bibarel and Tropius myself, although I'm sure there are better. You can get it in the Pokewalker (Big Forest) in HG/SS. And maybe some others, I'm not sure, but I am about those since that is the moveset for mine. If you want a flying 'HM slave' Tropius is great too: Fly, Strength, Rock Smash and Cut. It is also my best Pokemon at level 100, can beat nearly all others, and can 1-hit KO most Pokemon with just one Surf. I want Tropius to have a use again so I can just use my old Mew as an HM slave again anyway. 4X Ice weak = very very bad. Boards. " Element-17 Tropius + Tentacool also have all 8 HMs and Golduck much rarer than Tentacool. If you have access to one, a Rampardos learns a bunch. >_> And don't say "lol 4x Ice weakness". Tropius - Fly - Cut - Rock Smash - Strength. PokeAMon 14 years ago #5. ago. ago. This includes the option of spreading your HMs among your party and not using a dedicated HM Slave. Apparently, its love for fruit resulted in its own outgrowth of fruit. Between those, I can get all the utility moves I need on two Pokémon. Tropius is among my favorite HM slaves, but my Meganium was a beast going through the HG/SS metagame recently. Bibarel Surf Strength Rock Smash Rock Climb Tropius Fly Defog Cut Rock Smash I went through the game with a Gyarados so I didn't need to have Waterfall on a slave. Something about Water Tera, Leech Seed/Protect,. My Lilligant knows Sleep Powder, Flash, Cut, and Giga Drain. Thanks a lot. Pokemon Radical Red is a rom hack of, well, FireRed, that is currently making the waves in the romhack community for being, well, one of the fucking best rom hacks out there. re: Best HM Slave? Bibarel and Tropius are the best two to use. Tropius isn't a particularly competitive pokemon for battling, but if you lived in the Hoenn region, a Tropius would be such an insanely practical pokemon partner. Hi all Just a notice, we recently discovered that someone got into a moderator account and started hard deleting a load of key and legacy threads. DRAGONITE used BARRIER! shinryu_omega 8 months ago #5. 5th Gen Dex. Bibarel is an extremely good HM slave, but he's only found in Gen 4. It was the first appearance of the Pokémon series on the Nintendo DS, marking the true beginning of the next generation of games. For a throwaway HM slave? Wingull is a lot closer. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. Mew and Smeargle. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. 3DS FC: 1375-7711-9231. The best HM slave combo is: Tropius-Cut-Fly-Strength-Rocksmash Psyduck-Surf-Dive-Waterfall-Flash I was wondering is Tropius any good in game? meh. Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. that's about it. The reason being is he can actually USE that Attack stat. Ditching HMs was such a great idea for the devs, and for the pokemon franchise in general. This includes the option of spreading your HMs among your party and not using a dedicated HM Slave. Dragonite, Mew, Tropius, Salamence, Giratina, Arceus, Smeargle Surf / Whirlpool / Waterfall / Rock Climb : Blastoise, Golduck, Poliwrath, Omastar, Kabutops, Mew, Feraligatr, Suicune, Swampert. ago. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. Scooby Doo can doo doo, but Jimmy Carter is smarter. Stuff like Azumarill, Gyarados, Tentacool, etc. I want Tropius to have a use again so I can just use my old Mew as an HM slave again anyway. The Ghetto HM Slave. This is NOT a signature. The Temporary HM Slave is for Fly and Defog until you can get a Tropius from Pastoria's Great Marsh (Areas 1 & 2). Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength,. Boards. HM Slave switches in and out of the team. Bibarrel. Strength. In the arena of logic, I fight un-armed. Tropius is a bit hard to find. Generally, when they're available, Bibarel and Tropius make superb HM slaves. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersI had an HM Slave Metapod with Cut. The main mons that cover the important ones you need (Fly, Surf, etc) are Dragonite, Lugia, Mew, Latias, and Latios. Houndoom was a must for Jynx, Blaziken was actually pretty useless through the game and I only used it because he looks cool. ive never liked pure hm slaves, i like to have at least 5 usables, if only for type. I've got octillery (Cthulhu), houndoom (hell-hound), sableye (hobgoblin), galvantula (spider, duh), swoobat…I meant awesome looking. Generally, when they're available, Bibarel and Tropius make superb HM slaves. To me, Intelion takes the place of the classic "6th Grade Boy's Backpack" type character that we already have too much of such as Cinderance, Greninja, Lucario, Zeraora, Zoroark, Charizard, Scizor, etc. Share Sort by: Best. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. Business, Economics, and Finance. (Part 19) Pokémon Platinum - Galactic Battle - Cyrus #1 [] Although not seen at all this episode, it is asumed that Tropius was in the party at this time since it was present in the part in the previouse part and the following part. (Not all of these are HM moves but they are still useful for inside caves!) Give Raichu Flash, Dig, Rock Smash, and Strength. And a. The player lost the nuzlocke and is now continuing. It's the goat HM slave though, no one else can learn the unique combo of four that it gets. Vancityriot • 13 yr. (n. 3DS FC: 5155 2932 6518. At the very least though it still makes for a great HM slave. The Pokemon Database has this awesome chart that can be used to find "HM slaves". My fav was a Mew I hacked back in the day on my pokemon red for the GB. Bibarel is the easiest to obtain, and it can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. Empoleon: Surf, Rock Climb, Rock Smash, Cut. Hm slaves? ZLuxray626 13 years ago #1 so far I have zig but what should I use when he's full of HMs? Final Fantasy Record Keeper: Tyro/Sentinel Grimoire - QjcW. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that. CeruleanGamer 8 years ago #5. The main difference is that Crawdaunt learns Cut, while Ludicolo learns Flash. I was also thinking about Pikachu, but it doesn't learn Cut. 3DS FC: 4871-3350-8450 | Name: Obscura | Pokemon X Name: Erza. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. to catching tropius in emeraldthe only place to catch tropius is route 119 duuhhh. "If you have a Golduck and Tropius, then you can teach those two all 8 HMs. if you have access to ruby/sapphire/emerald, get a tropius. Give him Fly, Rock Smash, Strength, and Cut. Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash. Free Bananas all the time to keep you. 5th Gen Dex. "You either die a noob, or live long enough to see yourself become a hacker. For my playthrouugh of Alpha sapphire, my heart goes out to Bubblez the azumarill, for surfing, diving waterfalling and digging, and Bananasoar the Tropius, for flying, cutting, being moderately strong and rock smashing. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. ago. Tropius was made to give us a cool HM slave. zigoon best hm slave in hoeen. elite-4; emerald; gen-3; asked Sep 25, 2021 by mathtodd05. 1. Defog cannot be used outside of battle without the Fen Badge in Diamond and Pearl and the Relic Badge in Platinum . Like Ludicolo, Crawdaunt can also learn six out of the eight HMs in the game. Other than that I think the rest are interchangeable. Nidoking Cut Strength Dig Hidden Power. As a Grass/Flying-type, it can learn Fly among four other HMs in Cut, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. 3rd Gen Dex. Bibarel and Tropius still works. The game is stupidly easy if you follow msylcatac's answer, too. Reaction score. - Rayquaza_man7. Together they can learn everything and, unlike Skar and Trop, they aren't rare and can be obtained before the E4. Wishcash holds a special place in my heart thanks to its involvement in the old Mystery Dungeon games, and the fact that it looks like a stoned Pokémon version of Wario. The latter being an option if you did not pick mudkip. Tropius is pretty middle of the road. Bibarel and Tropius. TIA. 1. and don't. They just need to make him Grass/Dragon already. rampardose. mister72 14 years ago #6. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. Best HM slaves? Thread starter hlzwalkie; Start date Apr 12, 2007; 1; 2; Next. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:For Pokemon Emerald Version on the Game Boy Advance, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "best hm slaves?". Switch FC: SW-6466-0014-8328. Nidoking/Furret - Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Climb/SmashRaikou the Thunder Tiger strikes again. A great replacement for Linoone and stand-in until your preferred flying Pokemon that are harder to get, like Flygon and Salamence. Bibarel is probably the best HM slave in existence. In my list,cIconly show HM slaves and their HM moves. Personally I use Tropius as a slave since it can also learn Sweet Scent to spawn Hordes. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some weeks ago so we can't roll the forums back. FC: 2423-3256-7374. For Pokemon Alpha Sapphire on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "What pokemon can do most HM?" - Page 2. Skarslave. My Bibarel has Cut and Rock Smash right now, so depending in what order I get the rest of the HMs (I. Callista08 posted. Neither Tropius nor Lapras are good for Competitive Battling. I'm against a separate list for HM-slaves for that very reason. For Pokemon X on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius=Best HM Slave in the series. I think corphish can also learn cut too. He receives STAB on Strength, and Surf In-Game is a funny way to defeat Rock/Ground types without wasting Earthquake TM26 on Tauros. How about a regional form? Nibounium • 4 mo. If there's an EXP Share like XY then it'll be easy to level him up. BIBARELL IS HM GOD!!! but it can't learn flash, as OP specified. Dragonite can learn Fly Surf Waterfall Strenght HMs. Egg Moves. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. Anyway, try Ludicolo, Vileplume, or Breloom. Sneavile 8 years ago #12. . For those who may want other uses for this incredible pokemon, consider stacking it with hms. 55 votes, 30 comments. Mew, Smeargle, Tropius. -Henry Louis Mencken. you ev train you hm slaves? well tropius and bibbarel are good tropius: fly, defog, cut, i forgot. ago. The latter being an option if you did not pick mudkip. " - Xanoe Rules. ROCK CLIMB on Conkeldurr. Wich combination of two pokemons should I use so they can get all the HMs? I also want to avoid Bibarel, Tropius and Gyarados, because I used them in Platinum and I want something different. ago. There have been changes to the pronoun field in user profiles. 12. . Bibaral is the GOAT HM slave. Safari=Dwebble, Pupitar and Shuckle. Surf or waterfall goes on your waterpokémon. Use Rotom. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:best hm slave(s) in this game; Dwhite_1 8 years ago #1. Bibarrel. Not sure about Rock Smash, to be honest. Name: Wenitzb. R. The only HM moves worth using in competitive battle are Surf and Waterfall. . with pokèsav magikarp is an excellent hm slave. #6. SURF on Greninja. The two cover every HM. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. 5th gen wasnt fully unnecessary to carry hm slaves around, but i'd say Watchog, since it gets a fair few HM's, as does ducklett. CUT on Serperior. This is why we need HMs back. If anything, remember that those two aforementioned HM slaves are all you really need. Re: HM Whore Showdown! It's probably best not to use language like that in the thread/poll title. I find it most useful to filter "Hoenn only", and then sort by the rightmost column (total number learnable). You really don't need a HM slave, just give every Pokemon 1 HM each. It can be an interesting wall with it's hidden ability restoring berries, but it's not a GOOD pokemon in a battle sense. ---. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersPut your HM slave to a special box for future references. Bibarel is the best HM slave the game has ever seen, and you can get Bidoof the second you start the playthrough. I suggest slakoth and tropius. Golduck: Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Rock Climb. . A tropaion ( Greek: τρόπαιον, Latin: tropaeum ), from which the English word, "trophy", is derived, was a monument erected to commemorate a victory over one's foes by the. Fretka wrote:Magikarp. We usually use this as an HM slave, but it's actually quite useful. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. Third, plan for the Elite Four. Tbh I'll never regret buying the HM flutes, so nice not having an HM slave. "Why isn't there a briefcase with four million dollars in bearer bonds handcuffed to your drinking arm?"Like a thought parasite. My Crystal version Krabby has: Surf. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. So now you need a Dive. Wingull meanwhile is 'nearer' in R120 or within Lilycove itself, and the OP's original statement was: "I need the NEAREST Pokemon that can learn fly". For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Best HM Slaves for HG/SS?". It has Pickup too, so that convinces me to keep it as an HM slave and a Pickup slave. [deleted] • 4 yr. "Larz" @ 2681-0435-3081. Gyarados: Surf, Waterfall, Dive, RockSmash Tropius: Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash Smeargle: Fly, Surf, Dig, Teleport (very useful if you only. You can then pick anything in the top 15 or so on the chart (and others below, depending on which 3rd/4th moves you give.